Friday, October 05, 2012

Special pricing on Used Cisco WS-C2960G-48TC-L

The Cisco Catalyst 2960 Series offers the following benefits:

• Intelligent features at the network edge-for example, sophisticated access control lists (ACLs) and enhanced security.

• Dual-purpose uplinks for Gigabit Ethernet uplink flexibility, allowing use of either a copper or a fiber uplink. Each dual-purpose uplink port has one 10/100/1000 Ethernet port and one SFP-based Gigabit Ethernet port, with one port active at a time.

• Network control and bandwidth optimization through advanced QoS, granular rate limiting, ACLs, and multicast services.

• Network security through a wide range of authentication methods, data encryption technologies, and NAC based on users, ports, and MAC addresses.

• Easy network configuration, upgrades, and troubleshooting as part of the midmarket or branch solution using the embedded device manager and Cisco Network Assistant.

• Autoconfiguration for specialized applications using Cisco Smartports.

 

You can buy a used cisco WS-C2960G-48TC-L at routermall.com.

Thursday, October 04, 2012

Shop Used Cisco WS-X4548-GB-RJ45 at Routermall.com

Cisco® Catalyst® 4500 Series Switch enables borderless networks, providing high-performance, mobile use, and secure user experiences through Layer each of 2-4 switching. Enabling more security, mobility, application performance, video, and better energy savings over your network infrastructure, the Cisco Catalyst 4500 Switch supports resiliency, virtualization, and automation, further improving the ease of network use. Cisco Catalyst 4500 Series Switches provide better borderless performance, scalability, and more services with reduced total cost of ownership (TCO) and even superior investment protection.
The Cisco Catalyst 4500 Switch delivers predictable and scalable high performance, with advanced dynamic quality of service (QoS) capabilities and configuration flexibility for deploying borderless networks. Integrated resiliency features in both hardware and software maximize network availability, helping to ensure workforce productivity, profitability, and customer success. Its centralized, innovative, and flexible system design helps ensure smooth migration to wire-speed IPv6 and 10 Gigabit Ethernet (GE). The forward and backward compatibility between generations of the Cisco Catalyst 4500 Series extends deployment life, providing exceptional investment protection, while reducing the (TCO).
 
WS-X4548-GB-RJ45:

• 48 ports

• 10/100/1000 module (RJ-45)

• Cisco IOS Software Release 12.1(19)EW or later

• IEEE 802.3x flow control

• Bandwidth is allocated across six 8-port groups, providing 1 Gbps per port group

• Enterprise and commercial: designed for gigabit to the desktop

 

Buy your Used Cisco WS-X4548-GB-RJ45 here.


Thursday, May 17, 2012

Routermall introduces temporary discount on WS-C3750G-24PS-S

Routermall would like to give a quick shout out to our large group of used cisco vendors out there. They are the ones who help make specials like this possible. We just got in some used cisco WS-C3750G-24PS-S switches and they look great. We've just finished the reconditioning and refurbish processes so they are ready to sell. Maybe you should stop by and take a look, in order that you could give them a new home in your network. They're definitely worth making some room in the IT budget for. If you have any questions just call or click at www.routermall.com. We'd be happy to help!

Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Routermall special this week on WS-SUP720-3B and WS-C3750G-48PS-S

Routermall wants to let customers know we have a limited time offer on used cisco WS-SUP720-3B supervisor engines as well as used cisco WS-C3750G-48PS-S catalyst switches. Both parts are currently in stock and we'd like to move them. Click the link to purchase, give us a call or check out the information on them below. Thanks for looking!

Used Cisco WS-SUP720-3B


The Cisco® Catalyst® 6500/Cisco 7600 Series Supervisor Engine 720 is a family of Supervisor Engine(s) designed to deliver scalable performance and rich set of IP features in hardware. Its hardware-based feature set enables applications such as traditional IP forwarding, Layer 2 and Layer 3 Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) VPNs, Ethernet over MPLS (EoMPLS) with quality of service (QoS) and security features. The Supervisor engine 720 integrates a high-performance 720 Gbps crossbar switch fabric with a forwarding engine in a single module, delivering 40 Gbps of switching capacity per slot (enabling 4-port 10GE and 48-port 10/100/1000 density line cards). With hardware-enabled forwarding for IPv4, IPv6 and MPLS, the system performance is capable of 400 Mpps for IPv4, 200 Mpps for IPv6 traffic, with features and 1024 VRFs each populated with up to 700 routes/VRF for MPLS.

Used Cisco WS-C3750G-48PS-S


For midsized organizations and enterprise branch offices, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Series eases deployment of converged applications and adapts to changing business needs by providing configuration flexibility, support for converged network patterns, and automation of intelligent network services configurations. In addition, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Series is optimized for high-density Gigabit Ethernet deployments and includes a diverse range of switches that meet access, aggregation, or small-network backbone-connectivity requirements.

Thursday, May 10, 2012

Routermall looking to liquidate Used Cisco ME-C3750-24TE-B

Routermall recently received a small quantity of Used CIsco ME-C3750-24TE-B switches. They are incredibly robust and reliable. They are fully tested and carry our standard one year warranty. You should consider adding them to your metro area ethernet network.  See below for more details.

Advanced Switching for Metro Ethernet Services

The Cisco Catalyst 3750 Metro Series switches are a new line of premier multilayer switches that bring greater intelligence to the metro Ethernet edge, enabling the delivery of more differentiated metro Ethernet services. Featuring hierarchical quality of service (QoS) and traffic shaping, intelligent 802.1Q tunneling, VLAN mapping, Multi-protocol Label Switching (MPLS) and Ethernet over MPLS (EoMPLS) support, and redundant AC or DC power, these switches are ideal for service providers seeking to deliver profitable business services, such as Layer 2, Layer 3, and MPLS VPNs, in a variety of bandwidths and with different service-level agreements (SLAs). With flexible software options, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Metro Series offers a cost-effective path for meeting current and future service requirements from service providers serving enterprises and commercial businesses.

Wednesday, May 09, 2012

Great new sales at routermall.com on WS-G5487, WS-X6724-SFP, and CISCO3945-V/K9

Routermall.com is bursting at the seems with newly received Used Cisco inventory. So much so that one blog post today is not nearly enough. We're forced to list several part numbers today whereas normally we try to focus on one part each day that we are motivated to move. This helps us keep our message simple and our customers in the know. But today is different. Today we have 3 parts we really want to let our customers know about. The first is the Used Cisco WS-G5487. I nice little ZX GBIC that can really come in handy on those dispersed deployments. Next is the Used Cisco WS-X6724-SFP. This is really nice SFP density for the core switch. We also have just gotten a couple Used Cisco CISCO3945-V/K9 routers, something that has been rare on the refurb market. So head on over to Routermall.com and take a look. You won't be disappointed.  Here's some more info on the 3945 and the 6724-SFP. Thanks for looking!

 

Product 3900 Overview

The new Cisco 3900 Series builds on the best-in-class offering of the existing Cisco 3800 Series Integrated Services Routers by offering four platforms (Figure 1): the Cisco 3945E, Cisco 3925E, Cisco 3945, and Cisco 3925 Integrated Services Routers.
The Cisco 3900 Series offers the customer embedded hardware encryption acceleration, voice- and video-capable DSP slots, optional firewall, extra intrusion prevention, QoS call processing, voicemail, and application services. In addition, the platforms support the industry's widest range of wired and wireless connectivity options such as T1/E1, T3/E3, xDSL, copper, and even fiber Gigabit Ethernet.
The Cisco 3900 Series offers the customer superior performance and flexibility for all  flexible network deployments from small business offices to large enterprise offices - all while providing the customer with industry-leading investment protection.
 
Designed to work with and complement the many roles that the Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series plays in a network, Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series mixed media Gigabit Ethernet modules can offer the broadest selection of media, densities, performance, interoperability, and chassis deployments for enterprises and service providers. These modules are ideal for gigabit Ethernet over fiber all the way to the desktop, gigabit uplinks, aggregation of high-density 10/100 interfaces, Metro Ethernet, backbone and high-speed server farm or data center connections as well as nost mixed media environments supporting both fiber and copper cable connections. The Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series Gigabit Ethernet modules offer:

Flexible configurations for any deployment: Range of port densities, media choices, and performance speeds for any deployment requirement

Choice of media and connector type: Support multi-mode fiber or single-mode fiber using GBIC or SFP modules or MT-RJ fixed optics


Tuesday, May 08, 2012

Massive price reduction on Used Cisco WS-X6148V-GE-TX blades!

Routermall.com just received an serious overstock on Used Cisco WS-X6148V-GE-TX blades. We do not want these getting lost amidst our ever-growing used cisco inventory. Please contact us immediately at 888-484-0454 to buy these in quantity. We will not be undersold. If you have questions about how these cards can help your network become more cost effective, please see the details below.


48-Port 10/100/1000BASE-T Ethernet Switching Module (WS-X6148V-GE-TX)

The 48-port 10/100/1000BASE-T switching module (WS-X6148V-GE-TX) provides 48 real time switched, 10/100/1000-Mbps autosensing, full- or half-duplex ports at your command. The module has 48 RJ-45 connectors for easy use with either Category 3, Category 5, Category 5e, or Category 6 UTP (unshield twisted pair) cable. The "V" in the product number indicates that the inline-power daughter card is installed on the module by default. With the voice daughter card installed, the module provides these IP phone features on each port:
Inline power—Provides 48 VDC over any standard Category 5, Category 5e, or Category 6 UTP cable up to 328 feet (100 meters) from the switch to the IP phone. With inline power, pairs 2 and 3 (pins 1, 2, 3, and 6) of the four pairs in the cable are used to transmit power (6.3 W) from the core  switch. This method of supplying power is usually called phantom power because the power signals travel over the same two pairs used to transmit Ethernet signals. The power signals are often completely transparent to the Ethernet signals and do not interfere with their operation.
Phone discovery—Automatically detects the very presence of an IP phone and supplies inline power to the phone.
Auxiliary VLANs—Provides automatic VLAN configuration for IP phones using IEEE 802.1Q as the standards-based VLAN tagging mechanism between the switch and the IP phone.
The QoS port architecture (Rx/Tx) for this module is known as  1q4t/2q2t.
Figure 2-3 48-Port 10/100/1000BASE-T Ethernet Switching Module (WS-X6148V-GE-TX)

Monday, May 07, 2012

Help Routermall Move SPA-OC192POS-XFP Inventory.

Routermall.com is looking to liquidate our last remaining used Cisco SPA-OC192POS-XFP inventory. This card has been in our warehouse too long. Please head on over to our webstore and grab one. They are fast and solid and reliable. No worries with this card in your network. Learn more about them below.


The high quality Cisco 1-Port OC-192 POS/RPR SPA is available on high-end Cisco routing platforms, offering the benefits of network scalability with lower initial costs and easy upgrades. The Cisco SPA/SIP portfolio continues Cisco's focus on corporate investment protection along with consistent feature support, broad interface availability, and the latest technology. The Cisco SPA/SIP portfolio allows different interfaces (packet over SONET/SDH [POS], ATM, Ethernet, etc.) to be deployed on the very same interface processor.

The Cisco 1-Port OC-192 POS/RPR SPA provides a solid 10-Gbps Small Form-Factor Pluggable (XFP) interfaces in addition to fixed interfaces. SPA configurations are available to support multiple optical reaches from 300 meters to 80 kilometers.

Applications

The Cisco 1-Port OC-192 POS/RPR SPA can even be used in multiple applications, including:

• Access and aggregation

• WAN uplinks

• Internet peering

The Cisco 1-Port OC-192 POS/RPR SPA features both the POS for mesh fiber networks (Figure 2) and the Resilient Packet Ring (RPR) for ring fiber topologies (Figure 3). This SPA complies with the IEEE 802.17 RPR standard and also supports the Spatial Reuse Protocol (SRP) for compatibility with all existing Dynamic Packet Transport (DPT)/RPR networks.

Friday, May 04, 2012

Used Cisco AIR-LAP1522AG-A-K9 at Routermall.com

Nows the chance to pick up that Used Cisco AIR-LAP1522AG-A-K9 you've been thinking about adding to your network. Routermall has inventory they would like to move. Give us a call or order online. It doesn't get any easier. Check out the specs below and let us know if you have any questions.

The Cisco Aironet® 1520 Series Lightweight Outdoor Access Points are a flexible, secure, and scalable mesh platform that is designed for deployments across large metropolitan-sized areas. As part of the Cisco Unified Network architecture, the wireless mesh can be seamlessly deployed as an extension of wired and wireless networks, with central management through controllers and the Cisco Wireless Control System. The unified architecture centralizes critical functions of the wireless LAN to provide scalable management, advanced security, seamless mobility, and proven reliability. With maximum ratio combining (MRC) technology, the access points provide greater access range for consumer-grade client devices throughout the wireless mesh network. Rugged enclosures allow deployment in extreme weather and hazardous environments, and can be painted to adapt to local aesthetics. The Cisco Aironet 1520 Series includes the Cisco Aironet 1522AG, 1522HZ, 1522CV and Cisco Aironet1524SB, 1524PS, and 1523CV Lightweight Outdoor Mesh Access Points.

Thursday, May 03, 2012

Routermall looking for offers on Used Cisco WS-C3750G-16TD-S

Routermall just received an excellent condition, off-lease Used Cisco WS-C3750G-16TD-S. We would like to sell it immediately and are accepting reasonable offers. We'll gladly include free shipping. This item is not common and when it's gone it's gone.

For most all midsized organizations and enterprise branch offices, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Series eases deployment of your converged applications and adapts to rapidly changing business needs by providing configuration flexibility, support for converged network patterns, and automation of intelligent network services configurations. In addition, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Series is optimized for very high-density Gigabit Ethernet deployments and includes a diverse range of switches that meet access, aggregation, or even small-network backbone-connectivity requirements.

Tuesday, May 01, 2012

Used Cisco WS-X6148A-GE-45AF Sale at Routermall.com

For a limited time, Routermall is liquidating a small quantity of Used Cisco WS-X6148A-GE-45AF cards. These are great cards in great condition and carry our no hassle one year warranty for end users. Please head on over to our webstore and check them out for yourself and see if they are something that will meet your needs for Used Cisco Hardware. More information on the WS-X6148A-GE-45AF can be found below.

The Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series provides the broadest selection of 10/100 and 10/100/1000 Ethernet media, Power over Ethernet (PoE) (inline power) options, densities, performance, interoperability, and chassis deployment options. From basic wiring closets and small campus distribution and core layers to high-performance data centers, the Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10/100BASE-TX modules scale from 16 ports up to 1152 ports, and the 10/100/1000BASE-TX modules scale from 16 ports up to 576 ports in a single Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series chassis. Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series10/100 and 10/100/1000 modules are the key enablers of a Borderless Network access solution. Cisco with the Catalyst 6500 is the best choice for architecting and deploying holistic, cost-effective network access architecture. Securely connecting to anyone, anywhere, using any device. These modules are available in copper unshielded twisted-pair (UTP) and shielded twisted-pair (STP) using RJ-45 or RJ-21 making it the most widely deployed Cisco IP Telephony port enabled campus switch.

Enhanced Operational Control for Enhanced Manageability
The Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series offers advanced network-management features to make it easy to manage fast-growing networks. This includes TDR supported on the new 48-port 10- and 100-Mbps and all the 48-port 10-, 100-, and 1000-Mbps Ethernet modules (part numbers WS-X6148A-RJ-45, WS-X6148A-45AF, WS-X6148A-GE-TX, WS-X6148A-GE-45AF, WS-X6148-GE-TX, WS-X6548-GE-TX, and WS-X6748-GE-TX, respectively). TDR tests cabling by sending a signal down the cable, reporting cable breaks, cable crimps, and improperly wired cable.

Monday, April 30, 2012

Routermall Special on Used Cisco 15454-OC192LR1550 and NPE-G1

Routermall is now offering special pricing on Used Cisco 15454-OC192LR1550 and Used Cisco NPE-G1. If you head on over to Routermall.com, you'll find some great inventory at great prices. We work hard to make sure you get what you need fast. Let us help you find the gear you need. Continue reading for more information on the parts mentioned.

 15454-OC192LR1550

The need for 10 Gbps in the metropolitan-area network (MAN or metro) environment is driven by the transport network's requirement for bandwidth that is larger than any single constituent signal from the edge, as well as the need to efficiently aggregate lower-speed services. 2.5-Gbps interfaces are becoming more common on edge switches, routers, and other transport platforms, and Gigabit Ethernet at the network edge is increasing in popularity. As a result, scaling the metro network to 10 Gbps is of increased interest to service providers that want to eliminate a service bottleneck through the metro.
Metro networks must scale in bandwidth to meet larger service demands (OC-12/STM-4 and OC-48/STM-16) while still efficiently supporting lower-rate services (such as DS-1/E1, DS-3/E3, and 10/100BASE-T). A metro transport platform incorporating 10-Gbps interfaces enables service providers to cost-effectively access increased revenue streams by being able to efficiently deliver the deployed, familiar, lower-rate services as well as the premium, higher-rate, Gigabit Ethernet and 2.5-Gbps services.
 NPE-G1

To continue to meet the increasing needs for performance while maintaining exceptional value and flexibility, the Cisco® 7200 Series offers its high valued processor-the NPE-G1 (Figure 1). The Cisco 7200 Series Network Processing Engine NPE-G1 (NPE-G1) addresses the main demands for increased performance and advanced flexibility by doubling its overall processing capacity and enabling unprecedented LAN performance improvements. Benefits of the NPE-G1 include the following:

• Provides performance up to 1 million packets per second (PPS) in Cisco Express Forwarding switching mode (an increase of up to 250 percent over the Cisco 7200 Series NPE-400 engine)

• Offers three built in Gigabit Ethernet/Fast Ethernet ports that do not take up bandwidth points

• Doubles the amount of usable DRAM (to 1 GB)

• Eliminates a requirement for an input/output (I/O) controller

• Eliminates I/O controller LAN interface bandwidth point needs

• Provides modular processors with the ability to upgrade

• Offers improved price performance overall


 
 

Friday, April 27, 2012

Big Discounts on all in stock 3750 Series Switches at Routermall.com

Routermall.com has recently acquired a large quantity of Cisco 3750 series switches. We're looking to move them at big discounts.  The best deals can be found on the used cisco WS-C3750-24PS-S, the used WS-C3750-48PS-S and lastly, the used WS-C3750-48TS-S. All units are in great condition tested and carry our no hassle 1 year warranty for end users.

More information on the 3750 series from Cisco:
For most midsized organizations and even enterprise branch offices, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Series eases the deployment of converged applications and adapts to changing business needs by providing configuration flexibility, support for converged network patterns, and automation of intelligent network services configurations. In addition, the Cisco Catalyst 3750 Series is optimized for even high-density Gigabit Ethernet deployments and includes a diverse range of switches that meet access, aggregation, or small-network backbone-connectivity requirements.

 

Thursday, April 26, 2012

Used Cisco ME-C3750-24TE-B at Routermall.com

You can now purchase Used Cisco ME-C3750-24TE-B at Routermall.com. We just got some in and are looking to move them out. These are great switches and can really improve manageability of your network. Chech below for more info.


Advanced Switching for Metro Ethernet Services

The new Cisco Catalyst 3750 Metro Series switches are a new line of premier multilayer switches that rapidly bring greater intelligence to the metro Ethernet edge, enabling the delivery of more differentiated metro Ethernet services. Featuring a full hierarchical quality of service (QoS) and advanced traffic shaping, intelligent 802.1Q tunneling, VLAN mapping, Multi-protocol Label Switching (MPLS) and Ethernet over MPLS (EoMPLS) support, and redundant AC or DC power, these switches are ideal for service providers seeking to deliver profitable business services, such as Layer 2, Layer 3, and MPLS VPNs, in a large variety of bandwidths and with different service-level agreements (SLAs). With flexible software options, the used Cisco Catalyst 3750 Metro Series offers a cost-effective path for meeting the current and future service requirements from service providers serving enterprises and commercial businesses as well.

Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Great deals on Used Cisco SPA-4XCT3/DS0

Routermall recently brought some Used Cisco SPA-4XCT3/DS0 into stock and is looking to move them at steep discounts. Please contact us to get a price or purchase them online at the best place on the web for used cisco gear.
The combination of channelized and also clear channel T3 functions makes the Cisco 2- and 4-Port Channelized T3 SPAs ideal for today's rapidly changing WAN environment. As an integral part of a service node where customer bandwidth needs are uncertain, the newly certified Cisco Channelized T3 SPA allows service providers to avoid determining beforehand how ports will be allocated between DS-0, DS-1, and DS-3 connections. For enterprise remote-site connection, the flexibility to support DS-0, DS-1, and DS-3 connections certainly means this SPA reduces equipment expenditures by integrating the capabilities and services of numerous port adapters onto a single SPA. It also provides investment protection by growing with the rapidly developing enterprise to meet the needs of today's DS-0 and DS-1 aggregation networks and tomorrow's more intense T3 aggregation networks.

Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Great Deals on Used Cisco NPE-G1

Routermall just got a great deal on some Used Cisco NPE-G1 cards. We are currently testing the verifying our inventory. They will not last long as this price. Please come


To continue to meet the increasing needs for performance while maintaining exceptional value and flexibility,
the Cisco® 7200 Series introduces its newest processor-the NPE-G1 (Figure 1). The Cisco 7200 Series Network Processing Engine NPE-G1 (NPE-G1) addresses the demand for performance and flexibility by doubling its processing capacity and enabling unprecedented LAN performance. Benefits of the NPE-G1 include the following (see Table 1 for details):

• Provides performance of up to 1 million packets per second (PPS) in Cisco Express Forwarding switching (an increase of up to 250 percent over the Cisco 7200 Series NPE-400)

• Offers three Gigabit Ethernet/Fast Ethernet ports that do not take up bandwidth points

• Doubles the amount of available DRAM (to 1 GB)

• Eliminates the requirement for an input/output (I/O) controller

• Eliminates I/O controller LAN interface bandwidth points

• Provides modular processors and the ability to upgrade

Wednesday, March 07, 2012

Routermall would like to announce a limited time only discount on Used Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI switches. We just received a large purchase from a major company that recently upgraded its entire LAN network infrastructure. These units recently came out of working environments in a major corporation with excellent climate controlled conditions. This means the switches are in great condition. They are quiet and clean. They are also covered by our one year no-hassle replacement guarantee. If you experience any problems with these used cisco switches for an entire year from the date of purchase, we'll replace it with no hassles. Please check us out at www.routermall.com for great deals on used cisco routers and used cisco switches.

 -Routermall

Routermall would like to announce a special discount on Used Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI switches. We just got in a large purchase from a company that recently upgraded its entire network infrastructure. These units come out of working environments in a large corporation with excellent climate controlled conditions. This means the units are in excellent condition. They are clean and quiet. They are also covered by our 1 year no hassle replacement warranty. If you have any problems with these used cisco switches for a full year from the date of purchase, we'll replace it with no hassles. Please check us out at www.routermall.com for great deals on used cisco routers and used cisco switches.

 -Routermall

Thursday, February 16, 2012



Routermall.com often stocks used Cisco WS-X6548-GE-45AF=s in excellent condition, usually available for same day shipping. Buying pre-owned WS-X6548-GE-45AF=s from Routermall.com is fast, easy and secure with our automated on-line checkout system. Routermall.com warranties all used WS-X6548-GE-45AF=s for 1-year and includes advanced replacement for all in stock returns of used WS-X6548-GE-45AF=s. Our highly trained technical staff carefully tests each used WS-X6548-GE-45AF= to keep your downtime to a minimum. It is this commitment to quality and customer service that keeps customers coming back for more used WS-X6548-GE-45AF=s and other used Cisco needs. If your project calls for a WS-X6548-GE-45AF= and you need it fast, then Routermall.com has you covered. Give us a call today.

Routermall now offers increased discounts on Used Cisco 3825 Routers.

If you need a powerful core office router, the Cisco 3800 series is a powerful choice. It can handle heavy traffic and offers an upgrade path more versatile than almost any other series of Cisco router. We carry Cisco 3825 routers as well as the entire line of Cisco 3800 series routers and accessories. We offer a minimum of 1 year standard warranty to end users with extended warranties available at time of purchase. If you have any questions, we have skilles sales staff on hand to help you and we have Cisco Certified technicians available to assist you as well. We've been in business for 2 decades so you know we'll be around if you need us.